The obvious note-- one of general preference for *any* discussion with corporations over those perceived as being "pro environment" is worthy of note, but as important if not more so is that these same ENGO's *all* are corporate themselves. The Pembina Institute is a known corporate partner of Suncor (among others) and heavy promoter of carbon offsets (and 'producing' of these offsets via so-called green energy such as wind and hydro projects, to then sell to corporations like their partner Suncor who them can greenwash their "business as usual" operations without any changes whatsoever).